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Notes by David Monyak. Updated September 24, 2000 A copy of these notes in the form of the handout passed out at the meeting can be downloaded from the Download Page.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. The Apostles' Creed
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. The Nicene Creed
Topics (Questions and topics from chapter 3 in Credo. The Apostles' Creed Explained for Today. Hans Küng. Doubleday. New York. 1992:)
1. Jesus the Christ in the cross of coordinates of the world religions 2. Jesus, the image of the sufferer par excellence 4. Who is to blame for Jesus' death? 5. Why did Jesus have to die? Classical theories of redemption 6. A crucified God? A suffering God? 7. A test case for the question of theodicy: God in Auschwitz? 8. How can meaningless suffering be understood? 9. What is the meaning of Jesus' death on the cross?
1. Jesus the Christ in the cross of coordinates of the world religions 1.1. Buddha symbolic figure for a
1.2. Confucius symbolic figure for
1.3. Moses the prototype prophet, model for a life according to God's law
1.4. Muhammad the prophet
1.5. Jesus the image of the sufferer par excellence is radically different
2. Jesus, the image of the sufferer par excellence 2.1. The Cross as Symbol The Cross was:
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First images of the cross as a symbol came after Constantine
Early Renaissance:
2.2. What does taking up one's cross mean? does not mean:
means:
To understand why Jesus had to die, and die the death he did, we must understand how he lived The death of Jesus cannot be separated from his message and person
3.1. Was Jesus a Political Revolutionary? Jesus was fearless
but:
3.2. Was Jesus an Ascetic and Monk? there were Jewish monks at the time of Jesus who lived in the monastery of Qumran by the dead sea there was also a pious group called the Essenes who lived apart the world in villages
however:
3.3. Was Jesus a Pious Pharisee? Pharisee may have been unfairly represented in the gospels because of their later conflict with early Christianity
Pharisee = "the separated"
Jesus had much in common with Pharisees:
compared to Pharisee:
3.4. In Whose Name Did Jesus Speak? Jesus preached on the basis of an experience and union and immediacy with God
what is remarkable is:
4. Who is to blame for Jesus' death? 4.1. Trial of Jesus before the Jewish Authorities 4.1.1. Background of Trial
4.1.2. Charges
one may guess concerns were Jesus':
4.2. Roman trial and sentence
4.3. So who is to blame?
4.4. Where would we have stood? Our questions should be:
5. Why did Jesus have to die? Classical theories of redemption from Alister E. McGrath. Christian Theology 5.1. The Cross as Victory The cross was a ransom for sinners that secured victory over the devil for humanity
just as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many (NRSV) -- Matt 20:28
For the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many (NRSV) -- Mark 10:45
...who gave himself a ransom for all (NRSV)" -- 1 Tim 2:6
A ransom to who? To the Devil: Gregory of Nyssa: "Fishhook theory"
5.2. The Cross as a Means of Forgiveness Anselm of Canterbury "satisfaction theory"
Calvin
5.3. The Cross as Sacrifice Jesus death the perfect sacrifice, the paschal lamb
"has appeared once for all at the end of the age to remove sin by the sacrifice of himself" -- Hebrews 9:26
"We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all -- Hebrews 10:10
5.4. The Cross as Moral Example Public demonstration of the love of God: Abelard: "example theory"
6. A Crucified God? A Suffering God? 6.1. The Cross as Suffering God. The Death of God Post WWII: Only a suffering God, a crucified God can help us:
6.2. The Cross as Suffering Humanity in the Distress of Death Küng:
Küng: "the cross is not the symbol of the 'suffering', 'screaming God', indeed 'the symbol of God suffering the distress of death', but the symbol of humanity suffering the distress of death."
7. A test case for the question of theodicy: God in Auschwitz? 7.1. Was God in Auschwitz? if God exists, the God was also in Auschwitz? Yes! But how could a good and gracious God have been in Auschwitz without preventing Auschwitz?
7.2. Some Explanations for Theodicy from Alister McGrath. Christian Theology
theodicy = the justification of the goodness of God in the face of the presence of evil in the world
7.2.1. Irenaeus Greek patristic thought:
Problems:
7.2.2. Augustine was fascinated as a young man by Gnosticism and Manichaeism, which taught the reason for evil was:
Augustine:
7.2.3. Abandon God's Ominipotence Process Theology:
Popular book "When Bad Things Happen to Good People"
But God robbed of all power would cease to be God.
7.3. Theology of Silence theology of silence: answer of some Jewish theologians to question of justification of God in face of all suffering:
"And Aaron was silent." -- Leviticus 10:3
8. How can meaningless suffering be understood? Küng: There is no satisfactory explanation to theodicy:
"suffering, -- excessive, innocent, meaningless suffering, both individual and collective -- cannot be understood theoretically, but can only be lived through. For Christian and Jews there is only a practical answer to the problem of theodicy -- Küng p 91
Message from Job:
9. What is the meaning of Jesus' death on the cross? Outwardly:Jesus' death was meaningless, godforsaken dying.
"cross is a clear fiasco, which cannot be turned into any kind of mystery. It is an unprecedented abandonment of the one sent by God, by both human beings and by God." -- Küng
A meaning can enter only with a belief in the resurrection of Jesus to new life through and with God. By so believing in Jesus' resurrection, Jesus' apparently meaningless, godforsaken death on the cross becomes an invitation:
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